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Avid Juicy 5 disc brake review

The Avid Juicy 5 disc brake, the cheaper cousin of the Juicy 7, debuted to much fanfare a couple of years ago. The downscaled Juicy 5s (they lack the pad-contact adjustment of the 7s) were hailed for their easy setup, great adjustability, and remarkable stopping power. Now that they’ve been out and about in the general public for a little while, have they lived up to the hype? Well, in a nutshell, yes.

I’ve run a number of different disc brakes over the years — both mechanical and hydraulic discs — and the Juicy 5s are some of the most effective stoppers I’ve tried. For this entry, I’m writing about the 160mm (6″) versions of the Avid Juicy 5s. For the test period, they were being run on a Giant cross country bike in typical British Columbia conditions (I threw the book at them: mud, wet, very dry, even snow).

First impressions

Avid Juicy 5 disc brakeMy Juicy 5s came ready-to-go out of the box, pre-bled and ready to mount on my Marzocchi fork (using the included adapters). The brakes will mount without special hardware on Manitou’s post mount system as well. Setup, as I’d heard, was a breeze; mount the rotors on your wheels and the brakes on your bike (don’t tighten the bolts yet), pull the levers, and tighten the bolts (while maintaining pressure on the levers) and let go. You might need to repeat the procedure a couple of times to get the calipers centered perfectly but that’s about it. Adjust the lever throw as per usual (using the finnicky small allen wrench) and you’re good to go. Easy peasy.

Performance

Early versions of the Juicy 5s had a wavy rotor, which apparently contributed to an unpleasant ‘pulsing’ sensation while stopping; my set had the polygon rotors and they’ve been trouble free. Also, some people have complained about an unbearable squealing sound emanating from the calipers but it’s something that I haven’t experienced. If you fall into this category, you can bring your rotors in to your local shop and SRAM will replace them with plain ol’ round ones, which apparently eliminates that annoying ’stuttering’.

The test brakes on my Giant took about 2 mid-length cross country rides to bed in; other sets, being run on friends’ bikes under downhill or freeride conditions, have bedded in a much shorter time.

On the first couple of rides the brakes were good but still a little less powerful than the Avid Mechanical disc brakes that they replaced. At the start of the third ride, these things took hold and almost killed me. I was a little nervous about the braking power since I don’t usually need to stop on a dime (literally). Regardless after I settled in (and the brakes did too), they performed really well. Modulation is decent and, should I ever need to stop immediately, I can do so.

Durability

Since I’m running these brakes on a cross country bike, I haven’t noticed any durability issues in the five months that I’ve been running the Juicy 5s. The stock brake pads are still fine, although I’m not punishing the pads to the same degree that I would if the Juicys were mounted on a big bike. Riders who have these brakes on bigger bikes are getting pad wear that’s similar to the other major manufacturers’ products. The test brakes haven’t been subjected to any serious impact but they did brush off the instances where I’ve laid the bike down.

Update (6 December 2005): My Juicy 5s didn’t get the workout I was expecting over the summer but they did see some decent use. Unfortunately, I can’t say I’m particularly impressed with the overall ‘feel’ of both brakes since this review was published originally. Both levers now underperform — the back has very little pull before it engages fully and the front lever returns to its resting position very slowly.

Each of the brakes was bled properly and cleaned, and none of my local shops have been able to help me out. The brakes still work fine but they don’t feel it. Maybe my problems are isolated but I have heard of similar problems being experienced by other riders. Still, many people have nothing but glowing remarks for the Juicys and the masses really aren’t incorrect too much.

Update (21 February 2006): With the help of one of my LBS, I finally figured out what was going wrong with the levers of the Juicy 5s. It turns out that the hole in the brake lever that the piston enters was bored at an incorrect diameter (it was too small) and, over time, results in a mushy feeling brake lever that eventually stops returning to the proper position. SRAM recognized the problem immediately and, once the problem was identified, I had a warranty replacement installed and ready to go.

Pricing

MSRP for the Juicy 5s is around $200 (usd) / $300 (cad) per side, putting them solidly in the middle-of-the-pack category when it comes to hydraulic disc brakes.

Summary

The Avid Juicy 5 disc brakes are some of the nicest mid-range brakes on the market. Problems with early production models have been rectified and the Juicy 5s are good to go straight out of the box. They are extremely easy to set up, perform extremely well in all conditions, and are competively priced.

If you’re in the market for some aftermarket brakes (or can have them spec’d on your new bike), the Juicy 5s should be on your list. Properly installed, these brakes will ‘encourage’ you to go faster since you can be sure they’ll stop you when you need them most.

Although they were tested on a cross country bike I would have no problem putting Juicy 5s with larger rotors on a trail bike or a full-on downhill bike.

Manufacturer website: www.sram.com

MSRP: $195 (usd) | $300 (cad)

Table 1: Ratings for Avid Juicy 5 disc brake
Category Rating (?)
First impressions 8 / 10
Performance 35 / 40
Durability 15/ 20
Pricing 16 / 20
Wild card 8 / 10
Overall 82 / 100

16 Responses to “Avid Juicy 5 disc brake review”

1. Posted by Hayes HFX-9 hydraulic disc brake review » The Biking Hub | 5:20 pm, 6 December 2005

[…] MSRP on the HFX-9s is set at $149 (usd) or $199 (cad). This price puts the Nines at a level that’s significantly below Avid’s entry level Juicy 5 (which, to be fair, offer performance comparable to Hayes more pricey HFX-Mag brakes). But, given that most shops and online outlets offer the Nines at a slight discount, most riders can be up and running with some decent brakes for under $300 usd. […]

2. Posted by Avid BB7 disc brake review » The Biking Hub | 5:25 pm, 6 December 2005

[…] While I wouldn’t argue that the long-term performance of the Avid mechanical brakes trumps that of most hydraulic brake systems on the market, they’re far and above the best mechanical disc brakes that I’ve tried. If you have the choice between a set of Avid mechanicals and pretty much any other mechanical disc brake available today, go with the Avid and save yourself a bunch of headaches and many days of sore hands. If you’re considering a set of lower-priced hydraulic brakes as an alternative to the BB7s, check out a set of Hayes HFX-9s or Avid Juicy 5s — both brakes offer quality hydraulic stopping power for only a little more money than the BB7s. […]

3. Posted by Bleeding hydraulic disc brakes » The Biking Hub | 2:55 pm, 8 December 2005

[…] I was particularly impressed with the performance of SRAM’s Avid Juicy 5 disc brakes. I continue to be impressed by the brakes’ stopping power, even when it’s pretty obvious to me that my brakes need a little bit of brake bleeding love. Looking online, I found that Avid makes available all of the servicing information for the Juicy brakes. […]

4. Posted by Avid Juicy 7 disc brake review at Pinkbike.com » The Biking Hub | 5:08 pm, 6 January 2006

[…] If you’re considering the Juicys as a brake option for your bike but can’t afford the high-end cost of the Juicy 7s, check out the Avid Juicy 5s. […]

5. Posted by Avid Juicy 7 disc brake review » The Biking Hub | 8:58 am, 30 January 2006

[…] Avid Juicy 5 review from The Biking Hub […]

6. Posted by Juicy 5 disc brake review revisited: a long term update » The Biking Hub | 4:33 pm, 22 February 2006

[…] Last year I posted up a review of the Avid Juicy 5 disc brake. Overall, I was impressed with the way the brake felt and behaved during the initial testing period but, over time, there was a noticeable decline in the performance of the product. […]

7. Posted by Dave Aldridge | 1:51 am, 8 March 2006

I got the juicy 5’s stock on a trance 2 recently. While I’m pretty impressed with the stopping power and feel of the brake, mine are suffering from a shudder/judder under hard breaking. It doesn’t happen when feathering brake only at the very end of modulation. I looked at quite a few reviews of the 7’s and the problems people experienced with those seem in line with mine. Anyone else had similar issues with juicy 5 bought in the last few months?

8. Posted by Cory | 7:54 am, 8 March 2006

Dave, have a look at your rotors. Avid is replacing many stock rotors with a ‘clean sweep’ version that’s intended to get rid of the shuddering that you write about.

I would have the shop that you dealt with look at the rotors, contact Avid, and determine whether or not this is your problem.

If it’s not, let me know and I’ll look into it.

9. Posted by Dave Aldridge | 1:18 am, 10 March 2006

Hi Corey, thanks for that. Yeah I’d read a bit about the swap they have been doing, when you say ‘clean sweeps’ are they round or wavy rotors?

In any case I’ll have the shop look at them and see what they say.

Thanks again,
Dave

10. Posted by Cory | 2:02 pm, 14 March 2006

Dave. You’ll want the round ones.

11. Posted by Hayes El Camino disc brake review » The Biking Hub: Mountain | 8:43 am, 18 August 2006

[…] After a relatively straight-forward installation, I was ready to set the levers on the El Caminos to my (admittedly finicky) preferred position. After a year or so using Avid’s Juicy 5 brakes, I was used to solid, one-finger braking, with the levers set pretty close to the bar. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find a similar ’sweet spot’ on the El Caminos because the lever always ended up touching the bar when I gave the lever a good pull. I ended up bringing the levers as close to the bar as possible and using the Power Adjust feature to fine tune it after that. […]

12. Posted by phil pennington | 2:13 am, 29 January 2007

I get the shudder etc but I could live with that if they wouldn’t keep binding up. First, my mechanic said the hyrdraulic system is always over full when it arrives from the manufacturer, and the fix worked for a while, but I find undoing the two adjustment bolts and re-tightening doesn’t do the trick, ie there’s still a slight touching that prevents the wheel spinning sweet. Anyone a view on what to do?

13. Posted by Jeff | 12:49 pm, 22 April 2007

I am also having problems with my Avid Juicy 5’s locking up without any lever tension. This will be the third year in a row that the shop will have to redo the hydraulics. First year “Too much hydraulic fluid”. Second year “Hmmmm, I don’t know what could cause this”. Third yea…, I will find out when I bring them in. Any help?

14. Posted by SCOTT | 12:49 pm, 24 July 2007

Known problem guys…….Do your homework!!! The Avid rotors spokes touch the bottom of the pads and causes the pulsation/shudder/turkey gobble. remount your caliper using a dime sized washer under the caliper bolt attachment area so as to raise the caliper upwards…this will stop the rotors spokes from contacting the pads……easy fix. You can also grind 1/8 inch off the bottom of pads with a dremel and achieve the same result. Shame on avid for not doing better research.

15. Posted by glenn | 9:28 pm, 21 August 2007

I’ve been riding Avid mechanicals for a couple years but decided to upgrade to the Juicy 7’s with the purchase of a Trek 9 this year. Within three weeks I replaced the rear brake with my old mechanical. It was way too ’squishy’ on the bars and as the rotor and pads fired up on long downhills the engagement point became increasingly inconsistent. As for the front, the hydraulic grabs a bit quicker and is great for cornering and super-steep downhill braking. This 50/50 set up may not be for everyone as the levers engage/disengage at completely different rates, but it seems to work for me. Also, I prefer the ability to tear down and rebuild the mechanicals on the trail. If the Juicy’s breakdown several miles from your destination your more or less screwed, better it be the front than the rear brake.

16. Posted by steven blue | 7:02 pm, 3 November 2008

is this the BB5 brakes?

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