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Wheel strength and axle width: Is it time to change the wheel over lock dimension standards?

The wheels on your bicycle have been going through some fundamental changes in the last five to ten years. These changes have pushed the limits of bike wheels, as far as strength and function are concerned, and the design compromises that manufacturers have made are forcing them to develop stronger materials to keep us all rolling happily off road. However, I think it may be time to make a change that would benefit all cyclists, a change that could become reality simply by increasing the length of our axles slightly.

Too much stuff, not enough space

The current rear wheel over lock dimension of 135mm is just too short. There are two things that have compromised the strength of mountain bike wheels. The first is the fact that most cassettes are being built with more cogs than they were when 135mm hubs became standard industry fare. At that time, we had six cogs on our cassettes whereas now we are dealing with nine cogs, all crammed into the same amount of space.

To make 135mm hubs work with changes in the numbers of gears on modern bikes, hub designers had to make freehub bodies that were longer, shrinking the distance between the hub flanges. The addition of disc brakes into the game forced designers to push the flanges even closer together so their designs could accommodate rotor mounts and provide adequate clearance for the brakes’ calipers.

Longer axles increase wheel strength

Wheel strength has been compromised by narrow hub flange spacing. Think of the distance between the flanges of a hub as the base of a triangle. The other two “sides” of the triangle are the spokes which meet at the rim. A narrower “base” makes the triangle less stable laterally. To compensate for this, more spoke tension is required. This is especially true for the drive side of the hub, where the spokes have almost no “lean” outwards to the drive side hub flange.

Even front disc hubs have uneven angles that the spokes make from the rim to the hub flanges. Now instead of looking at a wide based triangle with equal length sides, we now have narrow based triangles with unequal length sides. This creates stresses at the rim and on the spokes that are far greater than anything wheel designers have had to deal with before. Materials advancements have helped to keep up with the strength issues, but there is a better way.

Looking forward: Finding the numbers for a solution?

If the axle length could be lengthened, the “triangle” formed between the hub flanges and spokes could be changed to be more symmetrical with a wider base. It would also increase wheel strength exponentially. The added strength could be taken advantage of in many ways performance wise, including making current rims lighter, something that would make for better on trail performance. Strength would be as good as or better than current rim designs due to the change in over lock dimension.

The front wheel over lock dimension of 100mm could also stand to be widened a bit to accommodate disc brakes. The rotor and caliper have forced hub designers to make compromises to the front wheel that are similar compromises to those of rear wheels. The increased stresses that disc brakes cause on wheel components adds even more problems to deal with. This is usually dealt with by using heavier components in the wheels. Wider hub flange spacing would alleviate this problem.

Crossing over: moving to a new standard

The biggest obstacle facing advocates of a new standard is that the changes would require component manufacturers retool existing machinery and the adjustments many frame companies would need to make to their designs.

In my opinion, this is what has kept the over lock dimensions intact for as long as they have been. However, the compromises incurred by keeping the axle lengths the same have reached their limits. Something has to give before more progress can be made, and I think it might be time to consider changing the standards now.

7 Responses to “Wheel strength and axle width: Is it time to change the wheel over lock dimension standards?”

1. Posted by David French | 12:58 am, 20 June 2006

I’m sure that Shimano are already pushing for a 140mm standard on rear hubs.

I worry if the increase it much more though, and we’ll be having problems with the ‘Q factor’. (The width between the pedals) Because cranks/bbs will have to be wider to accomodate the wider stays.

That would compromise pedaling efficency.

2. Posted by rikard | 3:01 am, 20 June 2006

140mm was used on tandems, they have moved to 145 or 160mm. MTB tandems seems to favour 135mm though as the number of available hubs with decent freewhels is larger for that OLD.

But there IS a new and better standard för MTB wheels: 150mm with 12mm axles. 20mm forks also have 110mm OLD and the Maverik fork has a few mm extra on top of that as well. So the options for wider and stronger wheels are there, the consumers just dont think its worth the weight and the hassle to switch.

3. Posted by Cory | 6:43 am, 20 June 2006

Many DH bikes run 150mm rear axles as a way of limiting flex in the rear end of the bike. Most of them also need a wider bottom bracket shell to accomodate this extra distance. I believe Intense gives buyers the option of a 135mm or 150mm rear end with the M3 (they did with the M1), something that obviously boils down to rider preference…

The ‘q factor’ on most of these rigs doesn’t change though — with cranks like Shimano’s Hollowtech II, you simply remove some of the spacers that are normally between the bb cup and the frame.

Kind of a useless comment, but it’s early. :)

4. Posted by Mr. P | 3:00 pm, 20 June 2006

I have to wonder…

If you give them space… more gears will come…

And will marketing drive the push for more gears?

Q: What is better than 10 gears?

A: 11, Nigel! (Spinal Tap ref.)

I believe that Shimano already has a patent for a 15 gear rear cog.

Just thinking aloud.

A new bottom bracket shell standard is overdue as well.

Mr. P

5. Posted by David French | 1:28 am, 23 June 2006

Headset size maybe? So we can standardise the bearings?

6. Posted by Darren Dyck | 7:27 am, 23 June 2006

I’m surrounded by things that are needlessly different. I like to call it NFS! Non gnikcuF Standard!

7. Posted by Guitar Ted | 3:15 pm, 23 June 2006

It’s interesting to note that such companies as Pinarello, Cannondale, and FSA are working on breaking the mold when it comes to bottom brakets and headset standards with excellent results.

As Cory noted, down hill and free riders have already moved beyond the limits of the 135mm rear drop out standard. Tandems have been outside that standard even longer.

I don’t think “Q” factor or chainline is a limiting factor as much as the resistence of the manufacturers is to keep the standards the same for profitability reasons.

And finally to Darren Dyck: If there ever were “standards” in the bicycle industry that were adopted by all then I think we would definitely see hell freezing over. It’s never been that way and probably never will be.

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